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		<title>By: 360Digest &#187; Windermere makes listings available through Google</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-6271</link>
		<dc:creator>360Digest &#187; Windermere makes listings available through Google</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lots of interesting changes and business partnerships emerging lately. I wonder how many more opportunities are still available. I checked MSN and AOL, and they&#8217;re both already hooked up with Realtor.com.  Prudential has a deal with Yahoo. Seattle&#8217;s Real Property Associates is running a feed directly to Trulia (I like watching what they&#8217;re doing, as co-owner Gordon Stephenson is on the Board of Directors at Zillow.) I don&#8217;t see any reason why our other two local players, John L. Scott and Coldwell Banker Bain couldn&#8217;t also run feeds to Google Base and Trulia, but they may have their own reasons not too&#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lots of interesting changes and business partnerships emerging lately. I wonder how many more opportunities are still available. I checked MSN and AOL, and they&#8217;re both already hooked up with Realtor.com.  Prudential has a deal with Yahoo. Seattle&#8217;s Real Property Associates is running a feed directly to Trulia (I like watching what they&#8217;re doing, as co-owner Gordon Stephenson is on the Board of Directors at Zillow.) I don&#8217;t see any reason why our other two local players, John L. Scott and Coldwell Banker Bain couldn&#8217;t also run feeds to Google Base and Trulia, but they may have their own reasons not too&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Information wants to be free &#8212; and browsers just want to shop without being hassled . . . &#124; BloodhoundBlog &#124; The weblog of BloodhoundRealty.com in Phoenix, Arizona</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>Information wants to be free &#8212; and browsers just want to shop without being hassled . . . &#124; BloodhoundBlog &#124; The weblog of BloodhoundRealty.com in Phoenix, Arizona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On 360 Digest Gary Hodges asks Marlo Harris about the wisdom of letting people search from the IDX system on a Realtor&#8217;s web site without registering on the site: Now, knowing that this service probably cost thousands of dollars to provide; shouldnâ€™t there be some way to â€œenrollâ€ them in this service, with the hopes that the â€œsearcherâ€ will make contact with that agent and/or mortgage broker? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On 360 Digest Gary Hodges asks Marlo Harris about the wisdom of letting people search from the IDX system on a Realtor&#8217;s web site without registering on the site: Now, knowing that this service probably cost thousands of dollars to provide; shouldnâ€™t there be some way to â€œenrollâ€ them in this service, with the hopes that the â€œsearcherâ€ will make contact with that agent and/or mortgage broker? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Johnston</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3670</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definately agree branding Prudential with Yahoo is a big mistake.  Yahoo should definately stay independent and through the partnership with Realtor.com, integrate their properties while building a set of tools to make the user experience more informational.  Also, Yahoo&#039;s partnership with Homegain.com is a complete waste.  Anybody using homegain is like throwing yourself in front of a pack of lions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definately agree branding Prudential with Yahoo is a big mistake.  Yahoo should definately stay independent and through the partnership with Realtor.com, integrate their properties while building a set of tools to make the user experience more informational.  Also, Yahoo&#8217;s partnership with Homegain.com is a complete waste.  Anybody using homegain is like throwing yourself in front of a pack of lions.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Tracy</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This relationship is a success for Prudential because of the additional leads it is generating for the company and the exposure it is bringing the company, but it is a loss for Yahoo as it hurts their credibility and exposes the reality that Yahoo will do almost anything for a few more bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This relationship is a success for Prudential because of the additional leads it is generating for the company and the exposure it is bringing the company, but it is a loss for Yahoo as it hurts their credibility and exposes the reality that Yahoo will do almost anything for a few more bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlow Harris</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3423</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlow Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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The debate to register website guests before viewing listings is on ongoing one.  It depends upon your business plan and your IDX and features offered by your local MLS.

Here, we\&#039;re lucky to have our MLS offer excellent feeds that are easily customizable.  All searches return results with my photo and contact information.  Buyers are able to search by map, enter criteria, receive updates, save their searches and have new listings delivered directly to their mailbox.  It\&#039;s excellent.  But if you don\&#039;t have that capability, then I see no reason not to go with an outside service.

However, the question of requiring guests to register is a difficult one.

In locales that do not have public websites where all listings are available to view, then I guess it\&#039;s a personal decision.  By requiring folks to register, you risk the chance of losing quite a lot of people who don\&#039;t want to give up personal information. 

But in our area, virtually all listings are free and available on all the other real estate websites. Even our MLS has a public site with all the listings on it.  So it doesn\&#039;t make any sense for any of us to require registration, including Prudential.  Better they should offer all information for free, build better buyer and seller content, perhaps incorporate a revolving \&quot;Featured Agent\&quot; program, and offer updated news and information about their market area.  Then, they would have people return to their site voluntarily for information and updates, rather than be compelled through tricks or requirements.  They could still capture leads though, through a little more \&quot;useful\&quot; features.  For instance, on my site, I offer all listing info for free, but if they want to save their search and have new listings delivered to their inbox, then they have to enter their email address.  Though I never contact them directly, every listing sent to them is branded with my name, photo and phone number.  I put the ball in their court, and they have the option and choice whether to work with me or not, and it seems to work well for both parties.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate to register website guests before viewing listings is on ongoing one.  It depends upon your business plan and your IDX and features offered by your local MLS.</p>
<p>Here, we\&#8217;re lucky to have our MLS offer excellent feeds that are easily customizable.  All searches return results with my photo and contact information.  Buyers are able to search by map, enter criteria, receive updates, save their searches and have new listings delivered directly to their mailbox.  It\&#8217;s excellent.  But if you don\&#8217;t have that capability, then I see no reason not to go with an outside service.</p>
<p>However, the question of requiring guests to register is a difficult one.</p>
<p>In locales that do not have public websites where all listings are available to view, then I guess it\&#8217;s a personal decision.  By requiring folks to register, you risk the chance of losing quite a lot of people who don\&#8217;t want to give up personal information. </p>
<p>But in our area, virtually all listings are free and available on all the other real estate websites. Even our MLS has a public site with all the listings on it.  So it doesn\&#8217;t make any sense for any of us to require registration, including Prudential.  Better they should offer all information for free, build better buyer and seller content, perhaps incorporate a revolving \&#8221;Featured Agent\&#8221; program, and offer updated news and information about their market area.  Then, they would have people return to their site voluntarily for information and updates, rather than be compelled through tricks or requirements.  They could still capture leads though, through a little more \&#8221;useful\&#8221; features.  For instance, on my site, I offer all listing info for free, but if they want to save their search and have new listings delivered to their inbox, then they have to enter their email address.  Though I never contact them directly, every listing sent to them is branded with my name, photo and phone number.  I put the ball in their court, and they have the option and choice whether to work with me or not, and it seems to work well for both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hodge</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3422</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you.  I made the mistake of using a lead generation service (HV) and the cost per lead was not worth it.  I have spent a lot of time and a very small budget on improving my websites and I now get far more leads, and better quality leads, each week than I did through the service in a month.  Building your own branding is far better and more sustainable than outsourcing lead generation.  After all one of a Realtors main jobs is lead gereration.  Our sellers depend on us to generate buyer leads for their homes, and the buyers want us to find sellers with homes that they want to buy.  As much as double ending is rare, if a RealtorÂ® cannot gererate their own leads, through what ever methods preferred, then are their really doing our job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you.  I made the mistake of using a lead generation service (HV) and the cost per lead was not worth it.  I have spent a lot of time and a very small budget on improving my websites and I now get far more leads, and better quality leads, each week than I did through the service in a month.  Building your own branding is far better and more sustainable than outsourcing lead generation.  After all one of a Realtors main jobs is lead gereration.  Our sellers depend on us to generate buyer leads for their homes, and the buyers want us to find sellers with homes that they want to buy.  As much as double ending is rare, if a RealtorÂ® cannot gererate their own leads, through what ever methods preferred, then are their really doing our job?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Berg</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3421</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlow, As a Prudential agent, I agree that it is a less than perfect partnership (as all are). However, I suspect that Pru sees it as just expanding their reach, and one tool in a tool box to give their agents (and therefore their clients) broader online exposure. The most unique part of the Yahoo/Pru partnership is the Yahoo! Search ID number posted on signs and advertising which allows full property information to be pulled from a PDA. Gimmick or useful marketing tool? That remains to be seen, but their agents are using it as a successful listing tool (at least for now). As for the &quot;must sign in&quot; stuff, I couldn&#039;t agree more, and I have personally shunned that approach on my personal website for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlow, As a Prudential agent, I agree that it is a less than perfect partnership (as all are). However, I suspect that Pru sees it as just expanding their reach, and one tool in a tool box to give their agents (and therefore their clients) broader online exposure. The most unique part of the Yahoo/Pru partnership is the Yahoo! Search ID number posted on signs and advertising which allows full property information to be pulled from a PDA. Gimmick or useful marketing tool? That remains to be seen, but their agents are using it as a successful listing tool (at least for now). As for the &#8220;must sign in&#8221; stuff, I couldn&#8217;t agree more, and I have personally shunned that approach on my personal website for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Hodges</title>
		<link>http://360digest.com/2006/09/09/300/comment-page-1/#comment-3420</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marlow,

I just wanted to tell you I agree with you 100%. The only issue I am struggling with is how do you balance &quot;site content&quot; with &quot;contact me&quot; scenarios? I mean, are you professing to just allow visitors to your site with total access to an IDX feed, and hope that you generate a lead from that? I do also realize, being married to a real estate agent, combined with me being a Web site builder, that the importance of being able to &quot;initiate contact&quot; with a potential client has to be the # 1 goal; correct?

To clarify, itâ€™s also just as important to provide valuable &quot;free&quot; information, home searching of MLS, etc...

Recently, my wife has come across this service called &quot;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc.&quot; (If you want more on this I have built a page on her site that addresses this) http://www.mynewhomekentucky.com/homesforsale2.htm

Furthermore, it replaced an IDX linked page for searches. The reason for the replacement of this was that MLS&#039;s don&#039;t offer the saving of a search criteria that a &#039;searcher&#039; has specified. It also does not email new listings, matching that criterion on a regular basis.

The idea behind it, is the hope that a potential client will utilize the services of a Real Estate agent that offers this and/or the partnered service with the mortgage company that has established a relationship with that agent.

Now, knowing that this service probably cost thousands of dollars to provide; shouldn&#039;t there be some way to &quot;enroll&quot; them in this service, with the hopes that the &quot;searcher&quot; will make contact with that agent and/or mortgage broker?

I know about Windermere and Caldwell Banker, etc., providing this. But, itâ€™s a brokerage and for that broker, leads from there service may or may not be fair, with respect to its agents. So, this method provides the &quot;little guy/gal&quot; have a similar service. As it really is the &#039;agent&#039; who does all the work.

As a disclaimer, I cannot adequately say I am qualified to represent all that &quot;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc.&quot; has to offer in this sense. I am merely a website builder married to a Real Estate agent, trying to support her and the industry in my &#039;neck of the woods&#039;.

I do respect your Blog, and most that you have to say. Furthermore, I am aware enough to know that most agents get most of their business by &quot;referral&quot;. At the risk of saying something that I may not be qualified to say (getting in the dog house with my wife) :)  I am reaching here for what you think in this regard, as I have mentioned about &quot;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc..?

Thanks again for a great site and for you being you.

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marlow,</p>
<p>I just wanted to tell you I agree with you 100%. The only issue I am struggling with is how do you balance &#8220;site content&#8221; with &#8220;contact me&#8221; scenarios? I mean, are you professing to just allow visitors to your site with total access to an IDX feed, and hope that you generate a lead from that? I do also realize, being married to a real estate agent, combined with me being a Web site builder, that the importance of being able to &#8220;initiate contact&#8221; with a potential client has to be the # 1 goal; correct?</p>
<p>To clarify, itâ€™s also just as important to provide valuable &#8220;free&#8221; information, home searching of MLS, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Recently, my wife has come across this service called &#8220;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc.&#8221; (If you want more on this I have built a page on her site that addresses this) <a href="http://www.mynewhomekentucky.com/homesforsale2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mynewhomekentucky.com/homesforsale2.htm</a></p>
<p>Furthermore, it replaced an IDX linked page for searches. The reason for the replacement of this was that MLS&#8217;s don&#8217;t offer the saving of a search criteria that a &#8216;searcher&#8217; has specified. It also does not email new listings, matching that criterion on a regular basis.</p>
<p>The idea behind it, is the hope that a potential client will utilize the services of a Real Estate agent that offers this and/or the partnered service with the mortgage company that has established a relationship with that agent.</p>
<p>Now, knowing that this service probably cost thousands of dollars to provide; shouldn&#8217;t there be some way to &#8220;enroll&#8221; them in this service, with the hopes that the &#8220;searcher&#8221; will make contact with that agent and/or mortgage broker?</p>
<p>I know about Windermere and Caldwell Banker, etc., providing this. But, itâ€™s a brokerage and for that broker, leads from there service may or may not be fair, with respect to its agents. So, this method provides the &#8220;little guy/gal&#8221; have a similar service. As it really is the &#8216;agent&#8217; who does all the work.</p>
<p>As a disclaimer, I cannot adequately say I am qualified to represent all that &#8220;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc.&#8221; has to offer in this sense. I am merely a website builder married to a Real Estate agent, trying to support her and the industry in my &#8216;neck of the woods&#8217;.</p>
<p>I do respect your Blog, and most that you have to say. Furthermore, I am aware enough to know that most agents get most of their business by &#8220;referral&#8221;. At the risk of saying something that I may not be qualified to say (getting in the dog house with my wife) <img src='http://360digest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I am reaching here for what you think in this regard, as I have mentioned about &#8220;Home Buyers Marketing II, Inc..?</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great site and for you being you.</p>
<p>Gary</p>
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